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The Pythagorean Order of Death and Neo-Sethianism

We journey from Atlantis to modern times to understand two competing ideologies that define humanity’s struggle across history. This investigation unearths t...

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Comment by Jonathan Barlow Gee on March 4, 2021 at 9:16am

J: More likely from the perspective of the psychic conspirators yes. From the perspective of psychic revolutionaries, he’d be the opposite - somebody who’s attempting to quell the fire of the human psyche from flourishing. In so far as, the causes that any philanthropist backs, be they good or evil popularly - or according to the populist populous - whatever causes they back, they’re doing it financially. So even Elon Musk, as perhaps a political counter-example, is applying financial gains that he made, perhaps scrupulously or unscrupulously by inventing PayPal, I think, he’s applying those financial gains to going to Mars, and creating neural-link and the sky-link satellite system - whatever those are - and, again, he probably believes that he’s doing the right thing and for the right reasons and that what he’s doing is benevolent and beneficent and good and will improve society, and humanity and nature in general. In a sense, only time can determine whether or not he’s right or wrong. But, learning from past history, if you look at people who have gone before who have attempted to force globalist agendas to occur, you have people like Alexander the Great, or Julius Caesar, or Napoleon, or Hitler, or George W. Bush and these are all people that are considered, in hindsight, less popular than they were during their own lives. Which, I think, is an interesting point about the “great burner” or a true Messiah or Prophet, would be that during their own lives they’re vilified. They’re completely shunned and exiled at best, if not crucified - murdered, violently. So in a sense it does behoove psychic revolutionaries as long as we, or they, are the minority to remain more or less in the shadows, or secretive or occult even, so that we don’t get murdered by the people who are in charge who want their political agendas to be seen historically as right and good but who don’t want any alternatives to be allowed.

V: Yeah, that sounds good to me. I like, I’ve always said that globalism would be great if the people that were ruling in an enlightened manner as opposed to just power for its own sake. So I like it.

M: I would agree, but they want to be gods on this earth, and they want complete control over society and all the resources, so I don’t see one right now. Good point how they’re vilified, again we can talk about how Muhammad was on his heals most of his life, and of course, the great example would be Jesus, somebody who as you said was vilified, paid with his life and so forth; but Jesus is an interesting one, don’t you think, Jonathan? He pretty much was a nobody when he died, and he really was a nobody for several generations. I mean, he had his loyal group and the religion grew and it grew, but it took centuries before it really spread across the earth. So what do you think about that one, that somebody has, he had no footprint at the beginning.

J: I agree. It’s tragic, and I think a lot of his ethical teachings that he spoke himself personally, got twisted in not just the first few hundred years following his life and death, but definitely after the institutionalization of Catholicism as a global force since then. I think his ethical teachings are all but lost on the ears of the majority of modern Christians, even.

M: And who do you think was his original inner-circle? You said, it might have been the Sethians. Can we say that basically Mary Magdalene was basically his right hand man, or woman? How do you feel about the original Christians?

Comment by Jonathan Barlow Gee on March 4, 2021 at 9:17am

J: 

So what I believe happened then was that Jesus went across the Dead Sea, to the east-coast of it, the east shore (Qumran was on the west coast of it); he went across the Dead Sea and wrote what’s been called the “Angel scroll,” in which I believe he wrote down the name not only of god that he stole from the temple in Egypt, but also names of various other magical incantations that he could use to create miraculous seeming events. The angel scroll since then is the only way that we know that somebody named Yeshua Ben Padiah even existed 2000 years ago from an archaeological perspective, instead of just rumors in later literature; and the Angel Scroll itself has only been publicly admitted to existing once by Stephen Pfann of the University of the Holy Land, in 1999, and then was subsequently redacted or retracted by him as being an accurate or legitimate piece of apocrypha. He was only shown it by its owner in a private collection and he didn’t release the owner’s name. So all we have to prove that this document itself even exists is one circumstantial description by Stephen Pfann nowadays, and other than that there’s no proof that Jesus himself ever wrote anything down. So the early Christians themselves would have all been going on hearsay, on like the writings in the Gospel of Thomas who wrote down the sayings of Jesus, and these sorts of things, whereas, in reality, there was likely a book that Christ, or that Jesus himself wrote, and that was the angel scroll of Yeshua Ben Padiah.

M: Yeah, I love your reconstruction, great work. And I lean towards being a mythicist, but as I tell people, my second option would be Jesus the magician. And I think it’s so obvious when you start digging in, and of course you’ve got the work of Morton Smith and Robert Conner and others, Jesus was definitely a magician of the ancient times, probably battling the Nephilim and the Archons and other beings on high spiritual places while performing some stuff down here on earth. What about something like, you mentioned the gospel of Thomas, what about something of really of high philosophy, high theology, complex, like the secret book of John or the Apocryphon of John as some call it. What do you think this comes from? Original teachings of Jesus, or is this a later work by some very mystic, ecstatic Gnostics?

Comment by Jonathan Barlow Gee on March 4, 2021 at 9:18am

J: I’d say it’s, in that particular instance of an apocrypha, it’s got its own particular history. I’m pretty sure (I haven’t read it recently enough to be 100% sure, but I’m pretty sure) it was written, or at least set, after the crucifixion and after the resurrection of Christ, and it’s Jesus explaining to John the Apostle the nature of cosmology, the afterlife and - for example the spirits that rule over the different parts of the human body - and explaining that there’s an aura or a unique soul that governs every living thing, including every blade of grass. So it’s possible, it’s most likely (pardon me), that that was taught by Jesus to his apostle John during the lifetime of Jesus, that John wrote it down as being taught to him after the death of Jesus by the reincarnated or resurrected Christ, and then it was written down again by another scribe following that from the account of John the Apostle, and that the later scribe may have also taken a few liberties with the text. So it’s possible, it’s definite there’s a grain of truth in it, but it’s also possible that there’s a large degree of subsequent translational errors or accidental obfuscations along the way.

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