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Dave Roell interviewed by Frederick Woodruff

You state that the zodiac is not sky-based but rather it is earth-based. What do you mean by earth-based?

I mean that the twelve signs of the zodiac are inherently energies of the earth, presumably based on the 6-sided crystal at the very center of it. It’s geophysicists Lars Stixrude and Ronald Cohen who say the earth is a 6-sided crystal, which, combined with my theory, is an accidental proof of astrology and which, I fear, will get the researchers kicked out of their professions.

I puzzled the source of the zodiac for over a year. Where did the zodiac come from? Why were there two of them, tropical and sidereal? It was clear the actual constellations had nothing to do with the signs of the zodiac, but that only made the puzzle worse. It was only when I put the signs in the earth, and then made the earth, as a whole, inert, that I could see how the relative motions of the various planets could vary the intrinsic nature of the earth and its energies, thus producing astrology as we know it. Everything was explained. Nothing else was necessary.

The zodiac turns out to be a simple grid of elements – air, earth, fire and water – mapped against states of energy, which are, having energy, or Cardinal, resisting energy, which is Fixed, or seeking energy, which is Mutable.  There are only twelve possibilities, there can only ever be twelve.  Not eleven or thirteen or forty-seven.  The Earth is a planet full of energies and elements of all kinds.  The sky is almost completely devoid of any energy at all and, as a vacuum, is entirely devoid of elements.  If the Earth and other planets are full of energies, if they are of crystalline nature, then they are more than big enough, more than close enough, to have precisely the effects that astrologers have long assigned to them.

Does “as above, so below” still fit? Yes. Only now in a much more personal fashion. One of the great dangers of my theory is that it will greatly empower magic, for better or worse.

Talk about a synchronic event. Just as we’re discussing hexagonal crystals at the center of planets, NASA has posted pictures and a video of a gigantic hexagonal storm on the planet Saturn. What do you make of this Dave?

Well, as I mentioned, Stixrude and Cohen have theorized a six-sided crystal in the center of the earth.  I have said that a six-sided crystal represents zodiacal energies as 6 sides translates into 12 features, or signs.  I’ve also noted the presence of hexahedrite, a crystalline 6-sided alloy of iron, which is found in many meteorites, which suggests that the solar system is composed of crystalline planetary structures and that astrology is nothing more than the study of very large crystals.  It is therefore of staggering importance that a giant hexagonal structure has been found on Saturn, and entirely appropriate that it was found there, since Saturn is the concretizing planet and would show itself to be, if we could only see it closely enough, concretized in any number of ways.  Saturn’s rings being another obvious clue.  By contrast, the rings (“auras”) of Jupiter and Uranus are much, much more faint.  I can vaguely see a six-sided structure printed through on the surface of the earth, in longitudes of land and oceans.

Speaking of auras, your earth-centered notion of the zodiac reminds me of Alan Leo’s original description of the Zodiac, as recounted by Dane Rudhyar. Leo asserted that the zodiac is, in essence, the Earth’s aura.

I like this. It shows how close we have come to figuring it out, over and over again. There are many such hints, scattered everywhere.

David R. Roell:  http://astroamerica.com/astrology.html

John Townley:  http://www.astrococktail.com/articles/basis.html

Libra Rising:  http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/earthbased.html